Comments on: Red Pill Psychoanalysis and the Matrix of Racial Roles https://manhattanpsychoanalysis.com/blog-post/red-pill-psychoanalysis-and-the-matrix-of-racial-roles/ Wed, 15 Sep 2021 20:29:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Vivek Anand https://manhattanpsychoanalysis.com/blog-post/red-pill-psychoanalysis-and-the-matrix-of-racial-roles/#comment-25333 Wed, 15 Sep 2021 20:29:39 +0000 https://manhattanpsychoanalysis.com/?post_type=blog_post&p=19213#comment-25333 Chanda I chuckled at “a white man has a self-actualizing experience in response to consulting with BIPOC shamans and he is ultimately the one to save the world”. Thanks for that line, painfully funny for me, for desperately searching, and for shining light on how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Vivek

]]> By: Diane Barclay https://manhattanpsychoanalysis.com/blog-post/red-pill-psychoanalysis-and-the-matrix-of-racial-roles/#comment-25332 Tue, 14 Sep 2021 19:59:01 +0000 https://manhattanpsychoanalysis.com/?post_type=blog_post&p=19213#comment-25332 Chanda –

I have been thinking about my internal racialized aspects in terms of “what I don’t know that I don’t know.” How far more apt to view this as the unthought known – and how far more honest. The former is, I now think, a way to keep some distance from self states that are difficult to know. The latter requires me to take responsibility for what persists inside.
I loved the metaphor here and the challenge to take the red pill. Dialoques is a place where we are all receiving so much support for the journey forth.
One more question – what are the other four movies?
Diane

]]> By: Blair Casdin https://manhattanpsychoanalysis.com/blog-post/red-pill-psychoanalysis-and-the-matrix-of-racial-roles/#comment-25331 Tue, 14 Sep 2021 15:10:17 +0000 https://manhattanpsychoanalysis.com/?post_type=blog_post&p=19213#comment-25331 Hi Chanda,

You know a blog is powerful when you start thinking and experiencing it during a session, which happened to me today when a BIPOC client and I were talking about her experience of feeling like an outsider. I tried to imagine what it was like to be in her shoes, while at the same time experiencing our own matrix. I was glad to have your words to reference in my mind and body what I was feeling. Thank you for putting this blog into the world!

Blair

]]> By: Wendy Greenspun https://manhattanpsychoanalysis.com/blog-post/red-pill-psychoanalysis-and-the-matrix-of-racial-roles/#comment-25329 Mon, 13 Sep 2021 20:36:49 +0000 https://manhattanpsychoanalysis.com/?post_type=blog_post&p=19213#comment-25329 Chanda: You have captured, so eloquently, the experience of disavowal and a way that (we) white people continue to live in an alternate reality, splitting off the harm experienced by and caused to BIPOC folks. Like Nancy, I immediately saw myself in your description, especially what I also perpetrated of the “blue pill” world during our recent CORE Dialogues group, oblivious to painful reality for Black and Brown folks, only seeing the world through my clouded eyes. Your writing brings racialized enactment to life in such a potent way. I feel privileged to know you, to have the opportunity to learn from our relationship and from your beautiful and powerful writing. Thank you for all of this!
Wendy

]]> By: Nancy Kahn https://manhattanpsychoanalysis.com/blog-post/red-pill-psychoanalysis-and-the-matrix-of-racial-roles/#comment-25328 Mon, 13 Sep 2021 17:32:40 +0000 https://manhattanpsychoanalysis.com/?post_type=blog_post&p=19213#comment-25328 Chanda,

It’s so great when a movie (or tv series) stays with me because it spoke to something really important- like a self-experience I’m not consciously aware of – the “unthought known” which you reference in your blog posting.
The “white gaze,” which you also refer to, is bothersome in its looking at racial oppression from a distance- from afar (as a gaze does). But to realize something about oneself from within, there’s the shock of self-recognition which stays.

That experience of seeing/feeling the effect of my words, embedded within my sense of racial privilege, happened for me in the last CORE Mt’g. – The recognition has stayed with me. Thank you for that, and for your blog post.

Nancy Kahn

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